sundevil
06-19 05:49 PM
It appears that way on the surface, but I think this is subject to country quota also. So until ROW EB3 clears(since EB2 ROW was current) possibly no spill overs. But the biggest problem with this 90K for 5 years is based on some math they did with pending LCs and 140s etc. However did they anticipate dependents numbers correctly which is unknown till 485 stage? What happens if the backlog is 450K + 100K(just an assumption) when dependent numbers are added? You wait 5 years and realize you were not cleared through this system because you were part of that additional 100K . Now you fight your battles in the point system with a country limit of 14K(10% of 140K). So there are about 70K(14K*5) numbers being used up in MBS during those 5 years for a given country, not sure if that is the saving grace for any kinks in the backlog reduction numbers, but you have to figure new people are coming in every year and will compete for these 14K Visa numbers. It will be 38K when Z visa holders become eligible, but that is still a lottery proposition at best. So this could be really bad for few unlucky ones. Even though we have 485 applications in the system, if the numbers do not work out a few people are gonna loose big time.
Best case scenario is that we all get through under the backlog reduction, but future generation from India/China will have to play lottery for GC's.
This year with overflows from ROW category, maybe 40K extra numbers were used for backlog reduction. Adding 10k for each china and India it makes the number 60K. Isnt 90K better than 60k (if we are lucky) under current system?
Best case scenario is that we all get through under the backlog reduction, but future generation from India/China will have to play lottery for GC's.
This year with overflows from ROW category, maybe 40K extra numbers were used for backlog reduction. Adding 10k for each china and India it makes the number 60K. Isnt 90K better than 60k (if we are lucky) under current system?
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new_horizon
05-20 06:36 AM
thanks Raj...I am the one you spoke to on the phone from westland.
Thank you so much guys for your hardwork . I wont be able to make it But just sent a cheque of 250 to local members who are coming to D.C . Thanks again guys
Thank you so much guys for your hardwork . I wont be able to make it But just sent a cheque of 250 to local members who are coming to D.C . Thanks again guys
vdlrao
07-14 12:04 PM
Please find out the visa numbers allotment for EB1, EB2 and EB3 till now. Till now there is about 100k visa numbers allotment for EB3 every year due to the vertical fallout. From now on there would be around 100K allotment in EB2 due to the change to Horizontal Fall out of visa numbers. Out of these 100k EB2 visa numbers, India will get greatest share of around 50k + visas. Please see the below.
Type and class of admission 1998-- 1999-- 2000-- 2001-- 2002-- 2003-- 2004-- 2005-- 2006-- 2007
Employment-based preferences 77,413-- 56,678-- 106,642--178,702--173,814--81,727--155,330--246,877--159,081--162,176
First: Priority workers 21,375-- 14,844-- 27,566-- 41,672-- 34,168-- 14,453-- 31,291-- 64,731-- 36,960-- 26,697
Second: advanced degrees or exceptional ability 14,362--8,557-- 20,255-- 42,550-- 44,316-- 15,406-- 32,534 --42,597-- 21,911-- 44,162
Third: Skilled workers 34,282 --27,920--49,589--85,847-- 88,002-- 46,415-- 85,969-- 129,070--89,922-- 85,030
Fourth: Special immigrants 6,570-- 5,072-- 9,014-- 8,442-- 7,186-- 5,389-- 5,407-- 10,133-- 9,539-- 5,481
Fifth: (investors) 824-- 285-- 218-- 191-- 142-- 64-- 129-- 346-- 749-- 806
See the link below for reference:
http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/statistics/yearbook/2007/table06d.xls
Type and class of admission 1998-- 1999-- 2000-- 2001-- 2002-- 2003-- 2004-- 2005-- 2006-- 2007
Employment-based preferences 77,413-- 56,678-- 106,642--178,702--173,814--81,727--155,330--246,877--159,081--162,176
First: Priority workers 21,375-- 14,844-- 27,566-- 41,672-- 34,168-- 14,453-- 31,291-- 64,731-- 36,960-- 26,697
Second: advanced degrees or exceptional ability 14,362--8,557-- 20,255-- 42,550-- 44,316-- 15,406-- 32,534 --42,597-- 21,911-- 44,162
Third: Skilled workers 34,282 --27,920--49,589--85,847-- 88,002-- 46,415-- 85,969-- 129,070--89,922-- 85,030
Fourth: Special immigrants 6,570-- 5,072-- 9,014-- 8,442-- 7,186-- 5,389-- 5,407-- 10,133-- 9,539-- 5,481
Fifth: (investors) 824-- 285-- 218-- 191-- 142-- 64-- 129-- 346-- 749-- 806
See the link below for reference:
http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/statistics/yearbook/2007/table06d.xls
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rsrikant
07-18 08:41 AM
i am also in the same boat..
some one please advice and relieve us..
your help is greatly appreciated...
some one please advice and relieve us..
your help is greatly appreciated...
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dotnetguru
06-26 12:00 PM
Mirage..you are absolutely right...i paid 765$ as per old fees for I485,EAD,AP. the new fees for I485 is 1010$ and EAD,AP can be concurrently filed with no fees.also, since I485 is filed with new fees there will be no fees for renewals.so, basically 1010$ one time fee with the new fees structure and 765$+645$(EAD+AP) with every renewal every year.(if it becomes 2 years then for every 2 years).i wish i had paid thru new fees.this is completely unfair and big BS......
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tnite
07-05 11:10 AM
Just called USCIS and told her that My application was mailed on Jun 28th and it got delivered on July 02. I also told her that my PD is May 2003 (hence i'm eligible to file in June)..
She told me that since i mailed it in June and this Notice goes into effect in July 02 my application WILL NOT be rejected... She asked me to wait for receipt notice :)
GOING CRAZZZZZZZZZZZYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Anything received on july 2nd is history.it doesn't matter when you sent it.what matters is when USCIS received it.
I spoke to a cust. rep and she did tell me that all apps received on and after july 2nd will be returned. To be sure , she put me through an immigration officer (I am still listening to the music)
She told me that since i mailed it in June and this Notice goes into effect in July 02 my application WILL NOT be rejected... She asked me to wait for receipt notice :)
GOING CRAZZZZZZZZZZZYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Anything received on july 2nd is history.it doesn't matter when you sent it.what matters is when USCIS received it.
I spoke to a cust. rep and she did tell me that all apps received on and after july 2nd will be returned. To be sure , she put me through an immigration officer (I am still listening to the music)
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rajsand
09-20 11:57 AM
This might work !! We should have state chapters collect a minimum amt of $50 or so and register people who agree to attend the rally. Then upon showing up on the rally day they will be reimbursed the fee...!
---- $50 is dear to everyone!!
---- $50 is dear to everyone!!
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sreenivaskk
05-23 11:45 PM
Thanks for your efforts.
Donated $50 through paypal
Transaction ID: 10C287900W561913Y
Donated $50 through paypal
Transaction ID: 10C287900W561913Y
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schandra
07-27 12:09 PM
I am also, stuck in this whole BEC debacle. Mine is Oct 2003 EB3 and still stuck in Labor. And the very fact that the FY 2008 quote availability is very uncertain and we might not be able to apply for I-140/485 for years now makes it even more frustrating.
I am new to this team, so please tell me what I can do anything to help this issue to be raised.
Subbu
I am one of the victims here. I filed my labor on August 2002 EB2 and it is still waiting in the backlog center In-Process. I (w)hole-heartedly support for this...i guess we should send flowers to backlog centers...
I am new to this team, so please tell me what I can do anything to help this issue to be raised.
Subbu
I am one of the victims here. I filed my labor on August 2002 EB2 and it is still waiting in the backlog center In-Process. I (w)hole-heartedly support for this...i guess we should send flowers to backlog centers...
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Jaime
09-20 12:01 PM
I had lawmaker apointment (in Rayburn building across the street from where the rally ended) after the rally. There were 10 Indians giggling at me. At first I thought they attended the rally. I was walking in their direction when their looks got weird and I realized they did not attend the rally!
How sad! Yet there are tens of thousands of us who are committed! We need to keep growing our unity!
How sad! Yet there are tens of thousands of us who are committed! We need to keep growing our unity!
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devang77
07-18 01:24 PM
[QUOTE=truthinspector;264968]Paskal,
On the same evening.....Seeta and Geeta are shopping for tamarind in a nearby aisle....for some reason (I cant be more vivid than this) they notice eachothers tatto's; one has EB3 and one has EB2..........CATFIGHT
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Chicks with tattoos..catfight!!!...doesnt sound too bad now does it...not to hijack the thread but the example had a lot of 'skin' in it for me to resist...
People that have been saying that IV supports this and not that please re-look at IVs agenda, nothing is hidden. The stated agenda is to try to make the employment based process better, the ENTIRE process. A piece meal approach does not work (proven in the past by legislation that tries to fix a portion of the system). The holistic approach may appear to be locally sub-optimal will be the best for the entire employment based community.
In the interest of full disclosure and at the risk of incurring more back lash I must state that I am in EB2-I category.
Cheers and hang in people...all of us are in this together..
On the same evening.....Seeta and Geeta are shopping for tamarind in a nearby aisle....for some reason (I cant be more vivid than this) they notice eachothers tatto's; one has EB3 and one has EB2..........CATFIGHT
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Chicks with tattoos..catfight!!!...doesnt sound too bad now does it...not to hijack the thread but the example had a lot of 'skin' in it for me to resist...
People that have been saying that IV supports this and not that please re-look at IVs agenda, nothing is hidden. The stated agenda is to try to make the employment based process better, the ENTIRE process. A piece meal approach does not work (proven in the past by legislation that tries to fix a portion of the system). The holistic approach may appear to be locally sub-optimal will be the best for the entire employment based community.
In the interest of full disclosure and at the risk of incurring more back lash I must state that I am in EB2-I category.
Cheers and hang in people...all of us are in this together..
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pkak
07-14 11:02 PM
Could some pls post the link to the DOS classification of jobs with the levels and salary.
My understanding:
Each years of experience: 1 point
If job title has a 'Senior' preeceding the Title: 2 points
4 points maximum.
Job level: # of points
My understanding:
Each years of experience: 1 point
If job title has a 'Senior' preeceding the Title: 2 points
4 points maximum.
Job level: # of points
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gc_coming
01-12 06:19 PM
Hi All,
I got a notice from uscis on sept 24th stating that my 485 has been withdrawn as my previous employer withdrew my 140. I filed in july 2007 , and ported to a new job in April 2008. I filed an MTR on 24th Sept, but the status of the MTR is still received and pending. Its going to be 180 days since my 485 has been withdrawn on march 9th. And my lawyer is saying that i have to leave this country if we dont get the MTR accepted before 180 days.
Gurus could you please suggest some ideas on all possible steps that can be taken..
Thanks
I got a notice from uscis on sept 24th stating that my 485 has been withdrawn as my previous employer withdrew my 140. I filed in july 2007 , and ported to a new job in April 2008. I filed an MTR on 24th Sept, but the status of the MTR is still received and pending. Its going to be 180 days since my 485 has been withdrawn on march 9th. And my lawyer is saying that i have to leave this country if we dont get the MTR accepted before 180 days.
Gurus could you please suggest some ideas on all possible steps that can be taken..
Thanks
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Robert Kumar
03-28 02:47 PM
But then again - there are lot of rules that doesn't make sense. I feel that it is better to spend energy to get them amended..
if you could make a difference then take your pick from ....
a) ban EB3-Eb2 porting
b) or EB1 abuse
c) or eliminate country quota
d) or recapture the visa
e) or don't count dependents in EB category.
f) or abuse by body shop consutling firms
g) or Automatic GC or citizen after x years........
h) ..... list goes on..
.. if all could be done @ same time - it would be perfect..
i)And Make spilloover distributed equally among all the categories below it. Please add this also.
j) Move all EB3 waiters automatically into EB2 if they are waiting for more than 6 years with priority date retained.
if you could make a difference then take your pick from ....
a) ban EB3-Eb2 porting
b) or EB1 abuse
c) or eliminate country quota
d) or recapture the visa
e) or don't count dependents in EB category.
f) or abuse by body shop consutling firms
g) or Automatic GC or citizen after x years........
h) ..... list goes on..
.. if all could be done @ same time - it would be perfect..
i)And Make spilloover distributed equally among all the categories below it. Please add this also.
j) Move all EB3 waiters automatically into EB2 if they are waiting for more than 6 years with priority date retained.
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vjkypally
03-21 08:19 PM
I think the right way is for it to move laterally. If the govt wants 40,000 EB-1's it should get that number or atleast close to it. No point in some one in EB-1waiting for their GC when it filters down to a lower category. Also no point talking about why everything has to be equal. It is not, thats why they have set EB1,EB2 and EB3.Each requires a different skill set. People would not have raised this issue if this was an EB1-EB2 issue. Only because it is a EB2-EB3 issue there is so much outcry. If they have laterally used EB-1 if there was high demand in EB-1 no body would have raised the issue as they know what skills EB-1 needs. Now that it moved laterally in EB-2 some EB-3's who think they are as qualified as EB-2's is creating all this issue. Again you should have applied in EB2 than EB3 instead of raising questions on why EB2 moved forward.
Also its not like it is current or anything. EB-3 ROW is still better than EB2 India/China and for Christ's sake EB2 India was unavailable last 2 months......
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Also its not like it is current or anything. EB-3 ROW is still better than EB2 India/China and for Christ's sake EB2 India was unavailable last 2 months......
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paskal
09-22 11:18 AM
i would like to move away from the focal issue of rally participation for a moment- only to broaden the question. yes i perfectly realize that there are many motivated members that had genuine compulsions of various kinds that did not allow them to consider being in DC. i could be one of them tomorrow. i also know that they are not the majority of non attendees. still, to again answer a previous question, 2,000 registrations was a pretty good number from a crowd that likes things handed out to them. my question though is related to other iv activities. going to a rally is a bigger decision, true. so how many of those who are espousing moralistic platitudes about "cheapening" and "not associating real people with userid's" or blaming chandu's words have participated in other actions? have you joined a state chapter? are you active in it? did you attend a meeting if you belong to an active chapter? if you have no chapter did you volunteer to start one? did you volunteer for pre rally activities? have you met your local lawmaker?
i could go on, but those are key questions. those who complain about trivia need to step up and show their own commitment. the way of this country is to petition government by lobbying your lawmakers. nothing cheap about that one. in fact it's an incredible experience, open and educational to say the least.
you and i do not participate in these things because "he said and she said', we do it for ourselves. please always remember that. set aside egos for a larger motive and see if it feels good....
for days i bumped the state chapters thread up with minimal response. here was an opportunity to meet others like you and plan these meetings together. what's the good reason for that apathy?
the window is not closed. this is a long journey. i urge you to join your chapters or to create one. you will find it a rewarding experience..
i will be happy to provide details and answer questions on this from anyone interested.
i could go on, but those are key questions. those who complain about trivia need to step up and show their own commitment. the way of this country is to petition government by lobbying your lawmakers. nothing cheap about that one. in fact it's an incredible experience, open and educational to say the least.
you and i do not participate in these things because "he said and she said', we do it for ourselves. please always remember that. set aside egos for a larger motive and see if it feels good....
for days i bumped the state chapters thread up with minimal response. here was an opportunity to meet others like you and plan these meetings together. what's the good reason for that apathy?
the window is not closed. this is a long journey. i urge you to join your chapters or to create one. you will find it a rewarding experience..
i will be happy to provide details and answer questions on this from anyone interested.
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Jaime
09-20 11:08 AM
Hello guys!
I wanted to volunteer a thought that had been in my head, so I am basically thinking out loud here for a bit, just throwing this out there for your guidance, tell me if you think this is too aggressive, or even premature?
I think we need another rally before the end of the year. There are 2 reasons:
1- Presidential campaigns: After this Fall, presidential campaigns will be in full swing, and thus commanding all the attention of Congress, the media and the American public.
2- Memory: People's memories are short. Now that we have the attention of the media and Capitol Hill, wouldn't it make sense that this is the time to redouble our efforts and push harder? If we wait, the iron might just cool off.
Having said that, and as we know, a rally means a lot of money, a lot of work, a lot of dedication to organize. Yet, no one said our struggle was easy, and other people and groups who have gone through tough struggles have had to go through extraordinary lengths to achieve their goals.
So, if we were to hypothetically hold a second rally this Fall, we could go for the "low-hanging fruit", i.e. we can hold the rally where the most of us live, such as Silicon Valley (and we know those folks really come through), we can plan to reach attendance to this event in the tens of thousands. I know we might not have enough time, and the people who worked so hard on the DC rally are probably exhausted. But, what if we just focus on an area where there are a LOT of us, and do a "no-frills" rally? Just get the police permits and show up. Our numbers will do the rest.
I wanted to volunteer a thought that had been in my head, so I am basically thinking out loud here for a bit, just throwing this out there for your guidance, tell me if you think this is too aggressive, or even premature?
I think we need another rally before the end of the year. There are 2 reasons:
1- Presidential campaigns: After this Fall, presidential campaigns will be in full swing, and thus commanding all the attention of Congress, the media and the American public.
2- Memory: People's memories are short. Now that we have the attention of the media and Capitol Hill, wouldn't it make sense that this is the time to redouble our efforts and push harder? If we wait, the iron might just cool off.
Having said that, and as we know, a rally means a lot of money, a lot of work, a lot of dedication to organize. Yet, no one said our struggle was easy, and other people and groups who have gone through tough struggles have had to go through extraordinary lengths to achieve their goals.
So, if we were to hypothetically hold a second rally this Fall, we could go for the "low-hanging fruit", i.e. we can hold the rally where the most of us live, such as Silicon Valley (and we know those folks really come through), we can plan to reach attendance to this event in the tens of thousands. I know we might not have enough time, and the people who worked so hard on the DC rally are probably exhausted. But, what if we just focus on an area where there are a LOT of us, and do a "no-frills" rally? Just get the police permits and show up. Our numbers will do the rest.
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ramus
06-19 05:53 PM
Do we have any action plan yet? What can we do to include amendments for us? Is this too late now and all we need to do is to oppose CIR?
I know everybody is busy with 485 and so am I but we need to react now before it is too late.
I know everybody is busy with 485 and so am I but we need to react now before it is too late.
rajuram
06-13 10:46 PM
Read the visa bulletin fine print carefully.
C = Can not file
U = Take a U turn and go back home
So guys no one can file 485.
C = Can not file
U = Take a U turn and go back home
So guys no one can file 485.
GCapplicant
07-21 09:07 AM
I understand your frustration ,When we had to wait for our labors approvals even we have gone through the same sleepless nights and mental frustration.
Why dont you seek IV's help...They are really supportive and this website is a real boon for us all.Today we are able to get updated information of what is going on.
Seek their help...I beleive IV willd defnitely help in this issue.
By suing I dont know how far its going to help as they have clearly mentioned Sep07 for all traditional cases.Seek help from IV.
Why dont you seek IV's help...They are really supportive and this website is a real boon for us all.Today we are able to get updated information of what is going on.
Seek their help...I beleive IV willd defnitely help in this issue.
By suing I dont know how far its going to help as they have clearly mentioned Sep07 for all traditional cases.Seek help from IV.
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