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  • vine93
    03-05 01:03 AM
    I also got the same letter from USCIS today.

    Where is the core who advised us to fax letter to USCIS. Please let us know what the action plan is ?

    I am ready for $25.




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  • test101
    07-05 11:56 AM
    Ok. What did you guys say when the secretary answered? I need to have my narrative ready.

    I said I'd like to weigh on the current revised July visa Bulltien, they directed me to someone and explained the whole situation . Do not use complex word.




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  • go_gc_way
    07-10 06:55 PM
    Well-said POSMd. It must have been very difficult to spend time (even it is 1 Hour a day) after your job towards a common cause. Voluntarily.

    Hopefully those who are in frustration, though understandable, can come up with other better ideas to help resolve the problem. I suggest ,contact core Team and let them know how can you help with your time.

    My understanding, progress on problems like this can be expected in Months not days.




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  • santb1975
    04-26 04:07 PM
    login to paypal and then click on send money. you will then see a text box saying To: Enter donations@immigrationvoice.org corresponding to that. Enter the amount you are willing to contribute and click on send money.Please PM me if you need further help

    Its kind of confusing to make a one time donation.. and there should be two more options of $25 and $50 for one time contribution....

    Can anyone tell me how to contribute one time and for the amount not mentioned on first page..

    I think we should follow Hillary and Obama's grassroot campaign, whereby asking for smaller amount and that way make people more willing to contribute in smaller amounts...



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  • ameryki
    07-16 10:22 PM
    hi,
    Does anyone has any info about danalaw in CA

    I had approached her office long time ago and to be honest didn't think they were as knowledgeable as i would expect....thoughts on krupin obrien anyone?




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  • wandmaker
    03-09 01:00 PM
    Fellow IVans - 10 mintues of your time could save lot of things - Let us collect as much as possible.



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  • sledge_hammer
    01-13 11:49 AM
    Thanks for the reply and the blog!

    Regarding your answer for question 3 - when you say "renewal" what does it mean? There is just one application form for I-131, so should I simply fill out the same form regardless of whether the previous AP is current or expired?

    answes inline




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  • nrakkati
    03-21 02:20 PM
    Great!

    With this info, your attorney can easily demonstrate that you were authorized to work for "Employer 2" at all times since last entry in the USA until date of filing for I-485.

    There is nothing to worry about, IMHO.

    Good Luck.

    Thanks desi3933. That's very comforting!



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  • Macaca
    09-21 12:01 PM
    A nation that
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    purchases its own
    spiritual death
    on the installment plan
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  • chanduv23
    09-04 01:06 PM
    You are right! But many others do! And many that currently don't are just misinformed, and I believe that they can have a change of heart and attend the rally once they see it is the right thing to do!

    Persistence from all of us is the key here. U r doing a great job :)



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  • walking_dude
    09-04 04:32 PM
    TOP 5 Excuses

    1) Participating in the rally may jeopardize my position

    Completely baseless. Rally is being organized after due permission from authorities. Further more IV designated volunteers will be there to ensure it's conducted smoothly. We will not be doing anything that provokes Americans like carrying our National Flags or incendiary slogans and dishonoring of American flags as seen during the rallies of 'undocumented aliens'. We will only be carrying IV approved banners which will not contain anything offensive.


    Freedom of Speech/Expression and right to petition are constitutionally guaranteed rights, even to non-citizens. No one can use that against you. No one deport you for participating in a peaceful rally. All of us are highly educated people who don't have a propensity to indulge in violence and/or property damage witnessed during other protests.


    2) Rallies are bad. Bad things may happen at a Rally

    Perception is a result of our experience with so-called 'Rallies' back home and some here that turn violent. The primary reason for such lawlessness being the nature of participants - uneducated and/or unemployed anti-social elements. Also the political nature of such rallies, conducted by the opposition to inconvenience the incumbent government.

    IV rally will be peaceful, as the participants are highly educated, well-employed people with families. Also IV is conducting the rally to petition the government to change rules and not to bring down/change the government.

    If you need a precedent, we have the Flower protests and SJ rally , both conducted peacefully in a professional manner. In fact a cop even expressed admiration for the way IV protesters conducted themselves, orderly and peacefully.


    3) People who do rallies are good-for-nothings who don't have a better thing to do. I might become an object of ridicule if I participate in one and people find about it. People might think I'm crazy.


    Far from truth. Everyone's gainfully employed people just like you. We aren't different from anyone else, except that we have decided to fight for our common cause based on the understanding that strength lies in unity and numbers.

    People ridiculing others is as old human habit as Columbus himself. Many ridiculed Columbus when he set sail for India. If he had backtracked, there wouldn't be America and we wouldn't be here.


    If fighting for what's right is crazy, yes, I'm crazy. If standing upto fight for my career and my family is crazy, yes, I'm crazy. However, only a little more than people who expect to recieve GC in 2 years, without anybody doing anything to change the situation.


    4) There is no reason for the Rally. The situation will remedy itself. In the recent past people have received GC in 2-4 years and so shall I. ( Do-Nothings)


    Harking back to good ol' science textbooks, let me remind you of Newton's First law of motion - 'Every body [ EB immigrants] will continue in a state of rest or uniform motion [ retrogression] unless acted upon by an external force [IV actions] to change it'. Newton understood it centuries ago. We need to understand it now.


    Situation was different in the recent past as thousands were caught hopelessly in BECs. There was no FBI check. No I-140 backlogs. No 485 frontlogs and backlogs. There weren't 300,000 to 500,000 applications pending for AOS.


    5) Rally will not succeed. Even if does succeed, my non-participation will not make a difference.


    Numbers make all the difference, in a democracy. When a politician sees a crowd, the thing that runs foremost in his mind is 'Votes'. More the merrier (the reason why undocumented aliens being 12 million are treated on priority basis compared to less numerical EB migrants).


    When a senator/congressman is faced with a thousand 'Future American Citizens' ( so called 'Americans in Waiting') - he has two choices antagonize by ignoring them or help them achieve their goals. Any sane politician will opt for the latter, when those thousand future votes could mean the difference between re-election vs. defeat.


    That's why it's important to show up in good numbers. If we approach them individually, they may and for all purposes will ignore us. But if we show up in good numbers, we will make them rethink their position and encourage to take more pro-immigrant positions.


    Though, it might seem one or two absentees don't make much of a difference, in real life it does. These ones and twos are the ones that add upto to great numbers. If we miss out on these ones and twos, we might never reach the numbers we intend to. So it's very important for every one of us to participate.




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  • waitnwatch
    06-09 01:27 AM
    All,

    I have been a passive follower on IV for few weeks now. I read the news clippings that people had posted where there was some Gautam Aggarwal who felt the point system was good. I see a press release from him that I saw floating around some mailing list.

    Quite honestly even though lots of us disagree with him, he does make a very valid point. IV should consider clubbing US educated people such that 2 separate quotas can be created. Instead of banishing him as an elitist look at his point he is making by just marketing how the country is using the educated. Using a well respected university name is no different than talking about how we legals pay taxes etc. Just because we are educated and better of that the illegals as an argument is no less than elitism in that sense. I happened to go through gautamagg's post after the Guitrezz rally - read his message again sans tone. He makes a point. This CIR bill could have been good for us if we approached it positively looking at US educated people as a group too. Also his statement on the AP report about MPS being good is not totally incorrect in an environment where both EB and MPS may exist - if we can get that i.e. EB and MPS keeps both sides happy and we should fight for that. I emailed gautamagg and he did mention that the AP report cut out that part of his statement and told me to verify that with the reporter if I wished to. I think we guys need to be less passionate before we throw stones at others. IV is definitely doing a great job but people should share opinions openly on strategy - we are all humans and we may have missed an important aspect at IV - most IV folks seem to be non-US educated consultants and therefore disagree with Gautam. We really are 2 diff groups who want the same result with better partnership. My 2 cents. His press release:

    For Immediate Press Release: May 28, 2007

    “Grand Bargain” Immigration Bill creates issues for International Students in Economics, Finance and Business

    Mountain View, CA – May 28, 2007 – The US Senate is actively debating the proposed “Bi-partisan Grand Bargain” Immigration Reform bill. While the bill does have many provisions to attract educated people from outside the US, it also creates restrictions for people with an economics/ finance background.

    One of the proposals is to introduce an additional visa category for people coming to the US for graduate study. Though the proposed F-4 visa category is welcome by the international students’ community, it is unfavorable for people with a non-technical background or for people with a technical background who would like to gain additional skills outside of technology to be successful entrepreneurs. The proposed category, called the F-4 students visa, allows international students two major provisions that the existing student visa, the F-1, is restrictive in:

    1. F-4 students do not have to prove a non-immigration intent. Unlike F-1 visa applicants, students coming on an F-4 visa will have the ability to have a “dual intent” at the time of applying for their visa, while entering the Unites States, or while maintaining their F-4 status in the US. Such students can have a pending Green Card (GC) application or can apply for one while on F-4 status. This is in contrast to the existing F-1 category in which a previous or current intent to immigrate to the United States negatively impacts a persons ability to obtain an F-1 visa.

    2. Under the F-4 visa, instead of 12-months the students will have up to 24-months of Optional Practical Training (OPT) available after graduation. The larger time window will help students evaluate employment options while staying agnostic of visa issues.

    The bill restricts the F-4 visa to people who would attend advanced degrees in the fields of Science, Technology, Engineering, and Mathematics (STEM). Such limitation to STEM alone would negatively impact the inflow of international students to other graduate programs such as Finance, Economics, and Business. In today’s dynamic global economies, technology and business work together. Over a third of the MBA class in top US schools such as Wharton, Stanford, Harvard, and Cornell comes from a technology background. Restricting these provisions to STEM degrees alone will result in a severe shortage of highly skilled international students coming to the US for an MBA due to an advantage the STEM degree holders will have over them. This will impede the abilities of many “technologists” to obtain business and finance education and will reverse the positive trend in places such as the Silicon Valley where many engineers turn into successful entrepreneurs creating wealth and job opportunities for many Americans and add to America’s competitive edge.

    While the Senate has shown foresight by introducing the F-4 visa that helps in retaining people with advanced education from the US, it remains a very myopic solution to the problem it intends to address. Next week, the Senate comes back from recess to discuss amendments to this bill, this press release appeals to the Senate to consider enhancing the provisions of the F-4 as well.

    Note: Hundreds of people are affected by this already. With a Masters in Computer Science from Cornell University, 7-years of technology experience in the Silicon Valley, and after paying over $ 150,000 in taxes, Gautam, issuer of this Press release, may be unable to join his MBA class at The Wharton School this year. Because he had once started his Green Card process and established an “intent to immigrate”, it is difficult for him to reverse the process and obtain a students visa. Over 3-4 years of processing wait times has resulted in many people such as him to give-up their applications in lieu of additional education. But, their past intent looms over their very uncertain future: 22 of them have connected with each other and pray that their Indian Gods stay happy with them on the day of their student-visa interviews in India and that reason and common sense prevail.

    ###

    Contact:
    Gautam Aggarwal
    gautam.aggarwal@gmail.com

    I would beg to differ on the issue of a Merit Based System being good for us and I have a US Ph.D in a STEM field with over 5 years of post degree experience.

    I have calculated that a Masters in Computer Science with 5 years experience will get more points than a Ph.D in say Civil Engineering because of two reasons (1) Computer Science is a high demand field and Civil Engineering is not. (2) A Ph.D may take around 6-7 years to get and by the time this Ph.D gets 5 years experience he may be touching 40 and not even getting the points allotted to those under 40.

    If you are a professor in Civil Engineering from India or China and even have tenure there is a big chance that you would not get a green card given that there will be a 10% country limit.

    Wouldn't you think that such a system would be seriously flawed or do you think that Gautam is correct I am myopic.

    IV may have a predominance of non US bachelors in its membership but most of its core have US degrees. So if you look at what IV backs you would find that even though they cannot fit in every individuals tailored requirements they very well realize what is for the greater good.



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  • amitjoey
    05-20 10:54 PM
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  • tuhin
    04-09 04:44 PM
    This feels good to see people helping out a complete stranger. Never saw such camaraderie elsewhere.



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  • CADude
    07-06 06:45 PM
    Can you provide more details..
    When they received(date and time)
    When you received back (date and time)
    and other info, if available...

    Mine was applied and it has returned back ........:mad:




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  • GC_1200
    09-13 11:22 PM
    and few people asked me ' are you crazy? why you are doing all this for GC?'


    Who said that, GC is minimum in this country to live a normal life, with out it so many constraits as mentioned in our forum many times.

    Few people are always with negitive attitude and lazy, do not even listen to them.

    Many families will get benifit from this effort.



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  • flresident
    06-11 08:22 AM
    Even though I am an EB2 filer and very happy to see the Eb2 movement, I feel sorry for EB3 guys. Hopefully Eb3 will start moving faster soon. This is good news but we should focus on our current priorities and help IV core members to accomplish our main goal. Yesterday only I contributed to IV and I hope rest of the members do the same.

    Good luck to all who are current.

    Eb2, PD: June 2006




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  • justice4all
    07-21 09:04 PM
    Hi All,

    Thank you for the overwhelming response. I did skim through the responses and agree with most of the suggestions/comments if not all.

    Someone had brought the issue of FIFO and if there is anything in the law that states that FIFO has to be followed. I am not a law expert myself and cannot comment on if there is any such law. But what I am basing is more on the everyday commensense behaviour that all we humans follow for any queue. FIFO is the predominant thing being done for any queue and that will be the most resonable way to process be it a bunch of applicantions waiting on a queue or to service a number of people waiting on a queue in a bank or post office or whereever it might be. That is the fair, unbiased and non-preferential way of doing things. Isn't it?

    I want to make sure to convey the point that I first of all wanted to bring this issue to everyone's attention. May be my message was worded strongly, but doesn't mean that I am not flexible.

    I thought suing DOL is one of the options. Of course if there are other viable alternatives that will be less demanding, less expensive and will take a more non-confronting approach but still could have an equal impact in terms of resolving the issue amicably then I am all for it. But then the obvious question is what are the other equally good options? Someone mentioned about a petition. So what is a petition and how do we do it? Also mentioned was writing letters to congressmen etc. So who do we contact and how? Please, please anyone having the information please share.

    One more thing is that I am all for a dialog with IV core members and their guidance for this. Since I started this thread doesn't mean that I wanted to sideline IVs, but this is the only way I thought I could communicate to the IV platform about the agony of this issue and how people have been affected by this. So I am all for talking with IV core members on this. But please let me know how I could do that?

    So please let us start acting now: The list of next possible steps (in no particular order) are:

    - Decide if there are viable alternatives to a lawsuit that is more non-confronting and first try them if possible
    - Get the support of IV core team for this
    - If no other alternatives are available then consider filing a case. Consult an attorney for this
    - Raise more awareness about this and get allt he support we can
    - Raise some money towards this cause


    So please please provide more inputs so that we could start making some real progress. Thanks!!


    Hello Risker,
    After going through all postings, it is wise to consider the following actions in order:
    1. Contact the IV core team and tell our problem. Ask their input about what we can do and whom we need to contact. They may let us in correct direction.
    2. In the meantime, Get the details of peoples whose case are still in backlog centre.
    3. Finally, nothing works and no one help us, file a lawsuit. (As I dont know anything about the lawsuit here, many of them mentioned that the lawsuit should be done by the employer and there is more possibility of loosing.. We should not lose heart on that. In the suit, we need to ask them to make it current and keep the same filing fees until 30 Sep 07)


    P.S. As one of the posting mentioned, we may also consider waiting till Sep 07 before filing lawsuit. Because DOL promised to clear all cases before 30 Sep 07. If they dont then our case become more stronger. Till then we need to contact concerned people (like IV, congressman etc) and collect all infromation.




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  • go_guy123
    08-22 12:13 PM
    I am seriously considering this option. I have over 6 years experience as Manager in two large Indian IT companies (part of which is in L1A visa). However, I have detailed experience letter for about 2.5 years. The other company (through which I came on L1A earlier) does not give detailed experience letter per their policy. They gave a summary letter with start date-end date, designation and basic salary. I can get maximum point with 4 years experience.

    Does anyone know if Canadian Immigration accept secondary evidence like coworkers letter and/or my job description as mentioned in the L1 petition by that company.

    Also, does anyone know how much prep is required for IELTS ?

    Your L1 petition and letter from coworkers in letterhead is good enough. Write a cover letter describing your job and give photocopies of the evidence. I used my H1B petition
    to provide my job description.




    swamy
    11-18 10:11 AM
    Credit cards are issued mostly to GC holders only unless they have a checking account as well with the institution-unless one lies in the application. You are also presuming a 100% credit worthiness and sign up rate - extremely optimistic. This would work when IV is about a million strong and if people like you and me become 'resident' aliens - and dont turn our backs on those behind us.




    ram04
    09-24 11:13 PM
    yes I 140 has been approved in Feb o7.

    Let me wait for actual denial letter.

    It seems that is the best option at this point for me.

    - Thanks



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